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Post by EAGLEGOLFER on Jul 27, 2006 11:57:04 GMT -5
READ THE DAMN FIRST POST SHININ!!!!
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Shinin
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Post by Shinin on Jul 27, 2006 12:31:24 GMT -5
sorry
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Post by Xtowers on Jul 27, 2006 16:45:51 GMT -5
READ THE DAMN FIRST POST SHININ!!!!
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Post by monkeymagic on Aug 4, 2006 3:02:44 GMT -5
Mostly I think your guide its pretty good however there are a few things I would like to input.
"I would say this technique is definately
not a bug or glitch, and is relatively similar to the one hit/grip technique that ninja's
often use (or abuse). The only difference is that people don't call that a bug/glitch."
Its defenitly a glitch. Maybe noone has done it to you before but what happens is you shoot lets say 8 arrows, well they see 1 maybe 2 defenitly a glitch that should be patched.
"A smith's jump attack is quite powerful and
can sometimes strip all an archer's armor off in one hit. Very scary. If you do manage to
dodge a jump attack, though, it leaves them wide open to more attacks."
2 direct hits from a jump attack will kill most Archers.
"2. Short-range
Ok, never forget this. Melee archers are noob archers (well, most of them are. I have met a
few archers with very good melee builds that can really hold their own). Most of them will
simply come at you with their sword and die at your feet. There are two main reasons for
this. Either they can't beat you at range and are low on health so they try to melee you, or
they have no idea what they are doing. Enough said."
Melee Archers aren't as easy as you think. They will use jump attack which does whatever there range attack is aka Arrow! At LvL20 and up beware of Melee Archers a good amount of them are decent with a Sword.
"Another difficult situation. A mage is very close to you and trying to whack you quick with
his staff. You literally have to point your bow straight down as far as it can go to hit
them. However, if you can keep on hitting them, they are no problem. If you are up against a
good mage, they might try to grip you, and that can really hurt so be careful.
So far it may seem like Mages can be hard to beat and deserve a higher spot in the list. The
thing is that if a mage does manage to hit you, the damage is usually minimal. On top of
that, their health and armor can be pretty weak and that makes them easier to kill."
No offence but it sounds like you haven't fought a good mage yet. At close range they block arrow, grip, then its game over Archer. There Front Grip will freeze you then you are dead or close to it. Smart Mages won't swing staff much they will go wih a block then grab.
" The effectiveness of a smith's axes diminish greatly the
further away they are from their target. The reason being is the axes travel in a huge arch
and it can be hard to land a hit from far away. If you are close to a smith with axes out,
they can easily hit you. The delay time for throwing axes seems to be close to or shorter
than that of archer's arrows, so a smith can quite throw an axe before an archer can shoot
an arrow, even after being stunned by an arrow already."
2-3 Axes will kill most Archers. The delay time for axes is about .5 seconds longer than the bow.
You put Swordmans in to low a spot to me. Swordsman will kill you better than another Archer. They are close ranged, realitivly fast movement, and well rounded stats. Swordsman don't have much trouble with Archers.
I have also found out how many arrows it takes to kill each class. This is assuming your Range Attack is maxed (50/50 or about 135+) and you are dealing with people Level 1-40.
Warrior 4-5 Shots Blacksmith 5-6 Shots Ninja 3-4 Shots Mage 3-4 Shots Archer 4-5 Shots
On a last note if I were you I would add in how sometimes arrows don't register b/c it goes into Archer Bug.
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Post by Xtowers on Aug 4, 2006 23:20:58 GMT -5
Thanks, I will take all of this into consideration. Oh and for this: On a last note if I were you I would add in how sometimes arrows don't register b/c it goes into Archer Bug. Can you explain in detail how it works? I will add it in, but I don't know enough about it right now. Thanks!
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Senne
Dark Knight
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Post by Senne on Aug 5, 2006 4:18:27 GMT -5
i think your guide is pretty good and usefull and im actually looking forward to read your guide to get rid of ninjas, they are the most annoying also monkeymagic, you told us in how many shots we can kill each class, my question is: in which type of game is that? cause its harder to kill people in golem game than in solo orso
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Post by monkeymagic on Aug 5, 2006 9:44:19 GMT -5
i think your guide is pretty good and usefull and im actually looking forward to read your guide to get rid of ninjas, they are the most annoying also monkeymagic, you told us in how many shots we can kill each class, my question is: in which type of game is that? cause its harder to kill people in golem game than in solo orso Thats in anygame just remmeber its most of them lvl1-40 and its assuming the shots register which well doesn't always happen.
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Post by monkeymagic on Aug 5, 2006 9:47:23 GMT -5
Oh and for this: On a last note if I were you I would add in how sometimes arrows don't register b/c it goes into Archer Bug. Can you explain in detail how it works? I will add it in, but I don't know enough about it right now. Thanks![/quote] I don't know enough to explain very detailed but I do know that when shots don't register its the game glitching into Archer Bug/Archer Lagg and the two players see different things but ill ask around on Rakion to higher lvl Archers and hit u back on it.
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Post by Xtowers on Aug 7, 2006 0:30:22 GMT -5
Woot! Major update!
I figured I would make it good for version .50
Update: Aahh! Almost done. Just need to play a few more maps this weekend so I can remember what they are like.
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Post by Xtowers on Aug 15, 2006 1:00:05 GMT -5
Ok I'm finished. If any of you have additional things you think I should put in, explain better, or a typo that is really bugging you, please post here and tell me. I'm going to go and try to post it on gamefaqs.com right now. Update: I've submitted it. We'll see if it gets put up soon.
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Post by Tormentedsaw on Aug 15, 2006 1:06:57 GMT -5
I think ill buff up your thread and index it.
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Post by Xtowers on Aug 15, 2006 1:21:19 GMT -5
OK thanks!
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Post by Tormentedsaw on Aug 15, 2006 1:28:24 GMT -5
now if only i could make it so it doesnt open in a new window...
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Post by ragingbullxxx on Aug 31, 2006 20:16:29 GMT -5
nice tutorial on archers.. i learned a few things haha but seriously i hate fighting archers and getting hit even though they dont raise their bow
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